I tried to understand what this is all about. I don't think I got it perfectly but here it is.
People are not happy with how the (capitalist) system is structured at this point. It reached a point where all the wealth is controlled by a handful of individuals. While this handful of people acquires more wealth and more power by the day the vast majority of people are poorer and have lower standards of living by the day.
The system has reached a point where the vast majority of people no matter what they do they will continue to be poorer and poorer, no matter if you have 2-3 jobs and collage degrees you will get strapped out of everything sooner or later. You will not get access to proper healthcare or proper education, even if you have done everything in your power to make things work for you
And that somehow is wrong, very wrong.
Do not mistake this with people sitting on their asses and expecting everything handed to them
In today's world the people want a more equilibrated form of capitalism, not a savage/destructive type one where each is on his own to the point where your only option is death simply because your had some misfortunes during your lifetime. Or for no reason at all.
People want equal opportunities, the right to proper healthcare and education, which is not a lot to ask for. But when everything is a business, and all we care is profit what we are living now is understandable and a natural way for things to evolve. When healthcare is a business, when education is a business the outcome is obvious, not all will afford it.
You hit the nail on the head. The government and financial systems are in ruins and something has to be done. I essentially agree with everything this movement is about.
That being said, a lot of this is about individual responsibility. Why the fuck would someone take out 80k in loans for a job that pays shit? People are told to follow their dreams in the US. Unfortunately their dream often supersedes reality. Fiscal planning for the future is nowhere in sight. People are more concerned with the new Iwhatever or Jersey Shore then planning for the future. I am in college, and everyday I meet someone studying English lit or psychology because they "find it interesting". Your not in school to learn about things you find interesting, your their to create a fiscally viable future.
You take out $80,000 in loans for a job that pays shit because you live in one of the only developed nations that doesn't provide an education to its citizens, pretty much.
It sounds grotesque, but I thought the revolution started when Rep Giffords was shot. While a tragedy, I remember thinking, this is going to wake Washington up as Jeffersonian "Tree of Liberty" prophecy fulfilled.... boy, were we wrong.
Now I have to worry that they will take my arms, my ammo and my money and use them against me. I felt safer in a war-zone.
With the last sentace you nailed it. But nailed it because the system is flawed. The system should support each talent no matter how uninteresting they are to the economy (money wise)
Secret, the USA provides a primary education. We don't need to provide secondary education for everyone. Some people aren't made out for college. Hell, I'm in a class right now that half the students don't attend. Why should everyone else have to pay for students who are jerk offs? If you feel college is needed, then you can foot the bill. I am all for reimbursement for students who graduate in a timely fashion with a STEM degree, but its wrong to force the rest of us to pay for someone to graduate with a BA in Art History after 6 years of school. Its simply a waste of resources.
Catalin, while it would be great if this could happen its simply unrealistic. The talents that truly advance the human race are the only ones that tend to be economically viable. Mozart made beautiful music, Newton changed everything we know about the world. In 1000 years people will look back on the Beatles as music geniuses, while they look at Von Braun as the man who started the colonization of the stars. Not all talents equally propagate the advancement of the human race, those that do tend to be the ones that are economically viable.
college is a corporation and one that makes a lot of fucking money everytime i fail a test because we only have like one fucking teacher in the whole department for that class, thanks republicans!
I feel like 99% of people don't know what a corporation even is. Colleges aren't corporations. BP is a corporation. Colleges are not-for-profit (except the ones like DeVry or ITT Tech, which are all lying, manipulative pieces of shit). Unless you're just trolling, in which case, well done.
Nobody is being denied healthcare, they are being forced to pay for it. The US has the best medical doctors in the world, and a universal health care plan will not make anyone want to be a doctor. Plus why should tax payers have to pay for poor people every time they get a cold and feel it necessary to go sit in an er. Im part of the 99% but I don't want to pay From's medical bills every time he burns his nose lighting a crack rock. Im also not a hippie, so ill work my job, pay taxes, not protest with a bunch of homeless people begging for handouts.
I truly believe things will not be solved/repaired. Things will only get worse and worse to the point they will explode violently. Everything will run into the ground before anything will get fixed.
It's just evolution, nothing more and somehow only the best adapted will survive. Just think that throughout history there where great civilisations that fell apart. America is nothing compared to a whole civilisation
I agree that it will fall apart or run in to the ground but what I fear is that america will take most if not all of the world down with it. I hope im just being an arrogant american when I say this but it is a real fear I have for myself, my child and future generations. Perhaps it will take a huge fall for the world to realize as a while that money and power are not what we need in life. It is time mankind started focusing on science math and medicine so we can move on to colonize other planets because we are running out of room on this one
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The only solution at this point is a decision to abandon Americas congress. It has been bought and paid for, and if a politician can be taken from power by the removal of thier funding by private corporations, there no longer is a government "for the people". There is no chance for a republican, democrat, right wing, left wing, liberal, tea party....ANY solution that involves a political agenda because the government no longer represents it's citizens. Thats why it upsets me so much to hear Americans arguing with other Americans who aren't asking for hand outs or a free ride, just that there ELECTED officials represent them, and have a JOB with the sole responsibility of providing a voice, and a better life for it's people. While these people judge and criticise the people who are occupying wall street are only asking for their government to provide a better life for ALL Americans, supporters of the occupation, and those against. As do I.
That is a hell of alot better than you're other statement...Here politicians are still a mixed bag..We have kept many freedoms..But have lost some money and integrity along the way..Plus 1 to you!
It has always been a fact that fewer people have been the richest and subsequently control more money and property. Its more of a political move now and these people think they have the numbers to push their political beliefs on everyone else. I dont believe in punishing someone that has had success in building a business just to have some duche bag hippy type take it and give it to whom they feel deserves some of the profits.
so your political beliefs include being microchipped, taxed more for being poor, incorporating more debt for our country (which the current system perpetuates) selling our laws by way of lobbyists, whatever education is available for your children based on your neighbors income, not being able to receive medical care if the copay is higher than you can afford. you would rather 1% of the nation who live a life nothing at all like yours control you and your decisions, your freedom of speech? no other country in the world has as gross of an imbalance of power. china 11/1 ceo vs employee, germany 12/1, america 475/1 and they get tax breaks...not even required to pay the same percentage in that the rest do. if you want to be ruled and completely controlled go to cuba man. every SINGLE founding father was against centralized banking and the stock market and the worst thing, it wasnt even ever legally voted in. illegitimate power running things.
CEOs aren't getting tax breaks because they are the CEO of a company. You're ratios are completely off. You are saying there are 475 CEOs for every 1 working employee. That makes no sense. Also the US has one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world.
ok genius before assuming that its something completely idiotic try thinking logically. that's the PAY SCALE ratio dumb ass. wow you must be fucking daft to think anyone would say there's 475 ceos vs 1 employee. and they DO get tax breaks/ bonuses/ bail out money. read all the information people have presented you before contributing please.
Perhaps you would like to go back to the surf system Bronsin? Hippies are the only ones who have the time to protest. Most of America agrees with what these people are saying, they just don't have the time or energy to do anything.
From this whole "movement" I understood that the 1% refers to the few people whose actions influence/decide the life of the 99%. They are a handful of billionaires, so the person inheriting the 1.5million doesn't belong to the 1%
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i think that is more of a media slant than the actual standard of the people protesting... given some millionares are also protesting, but still the people camping in NYC and other cities around the world are not after the guy who owns 1-5 subways, they are after/pissed with the general corporate system that lets the "coke" brothers buy political protection while the majority suffer as a result. the major theme as i see it is a seperation of capitalism from governmental influnece. money should not make policy is what the protest is about, along with the few doezen of other themes that are present.
yeah I was being a bit facetious. I understand the 1% are the ones controlling the money in this country, if I were part of the 1% I would stand with the 99% since I am all too familiar with the issues.
i feel really sory for this guy, you only have the sort of issues this guy does (idon't mean his account being hacked) if you've been brought up in a really fukedup way!
I was part of the 53% who pays for the 47% until 3 weeks ago when I got laid off. Now I am one of the many living off unemployment. Sorry Collector, but I am going leach off the system for a while, while I search for a cushy government job, and/or try to setup my own company (if I can get the clients). I understand what these Occupy folks are pissed about (Washington-Corporate Cronyism), but they lost me at "Living wage for everyone, whether they work or not"
Nothing will ever change in america until there are more political options and term limits in both the congress and senate. The people have no voice, only those who can afford to lobby and line the pockets of the politicians have an opinion that matters. The government does not want to educate the masses for fear of a revolt. Also as a whole american society must remove religion from its decision making process. You cannot make decisions based on your personal beliefs and expect everyone to agree with them. We must choose what is best for society as a whole not just the rich or the poor. Middle class america is struggling more than ever to support both the wealthy and the needy and all it is doing is creating more needy. Taxing individuals no matter how wealthy will not fix this economy, tax the big companies that want to move overseas for cheaper labor only to charge more for their product
There is so much government owned land that could be used as solar and wind farms that we could power 43% of the nation and use american made products and hire americans to build and maintain these facilities but this wont happens because oil companies keep hindering the green movement. Also why can we spend hundreds of millions to help third world countries after a natural disaster but we still have all kinds of flood/hurricane/fire/tornado stricken communities that need help?
Why would they hinder the green movement when some of them are starting their own divisions to develop green technologies? I dont agree with going all out to disasters all over the world, especially when most of the countries we help take our aid and laugh in our face later on. I have a question for you. Unless you went to a private school how much did it cost you to go to school from pre-k to highschool?
Actually I was home schooled because my parents saw what public schooling was becoming. And no they weren't hippies or religious freaks my dad was an electrician and my mom was in the army.
Yes but teachers are overworked and underpaid and our children are suffering from it. Schools have been caught changing kids grades just to get more money. There are so many grown people that cannot read or write or even do simple math because public schools do not have the capabilities to help the slower learners. I went to college to be a teacher and was shocked to find out just how many teachers hate their jobs and wish that they had chosen a different field of work.
So a kindergaten teacher grading finger paintings is overpaid? I know thats not what you mean. Anyway youre mixing metaphors here. You are talking about ethical behavior and economics. The slow learners should be put to work on farms or in factories. Teachers have the easiest jobs anywhere. In my opinion.
Teaching is relatively easy until you deal with middle schoolers who are lazy and would rather be playing video games ir texting their friends. Kids don't want to learn anymore but the government says they have to go to school or the parents go to jail or lose their kids. Unfortunately in this country each generation for the most part has gotten lazier and lazier and parents have gotten softer and softer. There is little to no discipline that you can use on your kids and that is part of our problem today. And im not mixing shit. Due to shitty economics, shitty parenting and a shitty government program teachers were forced to do what they knew they shouldn't in order to keep their jobs and keeps several schools open.
well yea you cant murder your kid for failing a class...
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Nothing, and a 4 year degree from any university will put you in about 10000 of debt. Of course there is government aide programs for people who want to get a University education, but don't have the means, also government provided training to get the disadvantaged into the work force in fair paying jobs. Oh, and the starting anual salary in a University degree trained job usually starts at 50K a year, which makes the debt not such a big deal, and if a medical issue comes up, thank goodness that care is free to. Oh and because our Banks remain government regulated young people can afford to buy a house at a fixed low mortgage, and as the government provides a pension plan, when it's time to retire, you can enjoy the fruits of your years of work with a cheque every month, and fortunately our un corrupted banking system has no access to our tax surplus or pensions.... But hey, I live in one of the top 20 wealthiest countries in the world, our citizens should be taken care of by our elected officials, shouldn't
I think I will stay in America eh...Not everyone is a dumbass that blindly believes all that crap about Canada...Also health care isn't that great when you have to wait days to get it...
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it's not so great when you cant afford any either
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LOL!! I guess your right, it does suck to have to wait "days" to get free medical care. I am such a dumbass!!
Yeah, imagine that... having to wait a few days to get bypass surgery for FREE and not having to lose everything in the process to get it. This happened to my uncle just last week. They diagnosed the problem and treated him within 2 weeks - at no cost whatsoever to him.
So the options for someone without healthcare in this situation are these:
1) Be rich
2) Sell off everything you have so you can pay for it
3) Or even better, wait on the couch and die because you just can't pay for it.
Yep, good stuff for sure.
Yes, some rich fucks who can afford thousands of dollars worth of travel and medical procedures elsewhere. @Iraqvet: Listen, I'm not putting down the quality of healthcare in the US, nor am I putting down the US. I'm just trying to put across the point that your government should be footing the bill for that healthcare... It's not right that someone who needs a heart transplant has to die because he can't afford it. If the 1% of those rich cunts would get taxed a bit more this wouldn't be a big problem.
*Yes, some rich fucks who can afford thousands of dollars worth of travel and medical procedures elsewhere do so because they think they're just that much better than every one else and shouldn't have to wait.* Goddamn it, we need an edit option on the comments... :D
canadas taxes are up the fucking ass, but ours would be lower if we stopped manufacturing and creating illness while euthanizing all the poor fucks who are on their last leg and haven't smoked any pot
This is what we have for tax brackets:
15% on the first $41,544 of taxable income,
22% on the next $41,544 of taxable income (on the portion of taxable income between $41,544 and $83,088),
26% on the next $45,712 of taxable income (on the portion of taxable income between $83,088 and $128,800),
29% of taxable income over $128,800.
So it scales up nicely (as it should).
Population (US/Can): 312,481,000/34,625,000.
Depends..My state sales tax is 7%..Food isn't taxed..Our income tax brackets are somewhat comparable in percentages...
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I don't understand how anyone could argue against making the medical technology that was discovered by thier own government funding, the drugs that were created by thier tax dollars, then availible for little to no cost to the citizens who paid for it in the first place!! It is amazing to see the power of ignorance!! I am saying that you as Americans, being the wealthiest country in the world DESERVE to live better at the hands of your government than anyone. Why would you not demand that from your ELECTED officials!! It's mindblowing!!
Here in the U.S. the medical field is mainly feed through private investors...
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That is true, to a point, however do your hospitals and research facilitys not get state and federal funding? And if not....WHY??! If the purpose of an elected government is to be the voice of those who elected them, why wouldn't you want YOUR tax dollars used to create a better quality of life for you and your children and your elderly, and every citizen of your country. It is also a FACT that these private investors your talking about pay little to no tax on thier invested money, which is borrowed from the same banks that are throwing MILLIONS of hardworking americans(such as yourself, I'm sure) out of there houses, and charging them little to no interest. Why? So they can then patent a drug that costs them nothing to produce and make these same struggling americans pay a fortune for prescription drugs which, a border away, are a fiftieth the price. I love my Country, because I have the right to question my government. And so do you. That does not make you a bad American, it makes you a better one.
That's bullshit thinking that the 1% have been brainwashing the masses with for years... look out for yourself, don't let the govenment interfere with anything, the EPA is Satan's church, etc, blah, blah, blah... They have us all by the pubes and they try to make us believe that we should be grateful.
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they....?
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Nothing will change until money is taken out of politics.....period!
Unfortunately most people don't realize how crappy the politicians are and only look at the party the are with and that is good enough for them
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As a Canadian reading your comments, it's amazing to me that the only people arguing against this movement are American, and that the people on here from other countries understand the issue while some of you in the states are completely misinformed. Yes there are many issues being protested and brought to light, which is your right in a DEMOCRACY!! You know why you call protesters whiny hippies? Because your corporate media has told you to for the last 40 years. It is a mathematical FACT that your government has been bought, and your congress no longer has the power(or agenda) to legislate for YOU, the people who elected them. How do you claim to have a democracy, and then criticize those who question it. You are the wealthiest country IN THE WORLD!!!! and I watched a video on here of a guy walking around with a 100 pound nutsack, and needed a million dollars for a surgery. They said this is something only seen in 3rd world countries. Does that not tell you something!!!
I wish more of my fellow americans would stop and realize just how ridiculous our country and government look the world and actually want to change it...I feel like I am part of a different type of 1%vs99%
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Unfortunately, for the most part( and up here we see the same media you see) you've been told for years that to question your government is to be anti-american, to blindly go on and if you don't succeed it's your fault. That the government has been protecting you from threats, and created a legion of passive, afraid, and most importantly easily influenced citizens. I am NOT saying this is every american. Far from it, and I have made it down to the Occupy winnipeg demonstrations every day since they begun, in solidarity to the movement you Americans have created. I hope that the rest of America will see that the rest of the world outside looking in who are not ignorant of the FACT of corruption in government are globally supporting all Americans, with the movement, or against it.
It's very easy to write it on a piece of cardboard. I would love to know actually how much the above 1% have contrbuted financially to the 99%. I'm guessing very little.
We need radical redistrubution of wealth?? OMG!! What has this country come to? Obviously none of these people have learned history while going to their prestigious colleges. Look at Germany, Russia, China, and all these other countries who feel the same. Wow, once this takes over, kiss our freedom goodby!! I would rather be poor and free than hve money and live under a dictator. God help us all!!
i think you need to do a bit more research as to what the protests are asking for... they are not looking for handouts or anything. They are just asking that the rich do not get tax breaks.
seems that giving the corporations tax breaks and incentives caused the situation in the first place. they show bad numbers take the middle classes money to save their own asses and they STILL sent jobs overseas, why? to maximize profit. so how does taxing them do ANYTHING except MAKE them contribute to the country they profit off of?
Yep...No matter how much the government tried,these people still just demanded more profits,before and after tax breaks..When the government got easy on them,they saw a chance to maximize their money,not help America and keep jobs here...Now they are complaining people can't afford to buy their crap so they are still crying to pay even less...
Dictators are far less likely to rise from the economy it doesn't generate superfluous, fantastical wealth for 1% of the nation. Most of Europe is FAR to the left of the Democrats in this country, and there aren't many European dictatorships left, are there?
What they are talking about mostly is Higher taxes on wealthier people, so that there would be more money for schools, roads, health care etc. Russell Simmons is quoted saying "I know I don't pay enough taxes". Billionaire CEO's should not get taxed at a percent lower than teachers and nurses. Also, they may be a little upset about the whole wall street bailout thing, and the CEO's getting record bonuses after. I dont agree with everything OWS stands for, but they do have some solid points. And, a lot of them do have jobs, many several just to survive. I live in NYC and have went out and talked to some people, Yes there are shitty hippie losers, but for the most part, it is hardworking people who just cant catch a break.
there was an article i read about a month ago that gave the numbers showing that even if the govt confiscated 100% of the !% wealth it would run the country for only 6 months at best. the problems stem from a large non working welfare culture that has grown over the years, plus a govt that has screwed with the system so much that it no longer and has not for some time even somewhat resembles capitalism. add to all this a political movement to provide more welfare to a system that cannot take the strain. there are also a significant number of people here ( ive heard up 40 % ) who do not pay Federal taxes in my view of things this whole mess has been caused by greedy politicians, business owners, and lazy fucking civilians who believe that the world owes them something just because they exist.
40% of the nations wealth wouldnt run it for 6 months in addition to the money they already make? now really THINK about that for a second. every other point you made was spot on but when you consider that theres only 60 percent remaining between everyone else AND the government that just does not add up. now consider for a moment that the government could stop the wild spending, cut debt that is accumulating interest in the long run, and INVEST properly in its own people then it actually wouldnt even require ALL of their money, just a fair share by comparison to what everyone else makes would nearly double their income. its math man, and proper planning. everything else though, nail on the head.
this only includes the private individuals who are considered the 1% not all of the corporations, looking at it the way you describe you are correct, but the obama admin has repeatedly stated it as being only the private 1% as being the ones taxed
I find it hard to sympathize with the protesters when they sit there with $3000 Mac Book Pro's, ipads, iphones, droids, etc... Hell I didn't enter the smartphone world (due to income and budget) till just a few months ago. That being said, I also find it hilarious that these rich are showing up and supporting these folk but I have yet to hear of them writing a check and sending it in to the IRS. They ask to be taxed more but they must have forget that you can send more. I believe it is all a stunt to increase their own fan base. Mr. Simmons, Mr. West it was a capitalist system and Corporate CEO's that made you wealthy. It was this "evil economy" that allowed you to sell your CD's and clothing nationwide versus around the corner at a local thrift shop.
How to fix what is wrong ? Beats me but extreme taxation on one group is not the answer simply because they can pick up and leave. If your that rich you can afford to completely uproot your life.
Steve Jobs was reported to have had a couple of private sit downs with President Obama and told he that the heavy regulations was killing this economy and to scale it back to allow more growth. Mr. Jobs, you might have been a liberal but you never made more sense than that comment.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/66537.html
For those who don't believe me. I even picked a lib friendly website to source.
As for the economy, I believe we need to bring back everything that Free Trade sent elsewhere. Tell unions to stay out for 3 years of the jobs we bring back and then let the folks decide. Tax breaks for the employees and employers who return the factory stateside. And impose large tariffs and taxes on companies who insist on building products elsewhere and selling it back to us like stupid cannibals. I think we should do away with mandatory S.S. and give us an option to want that or something else. 401k, IRA, IRA roth etc... I think lobbyist should be banned from D.C.
I believe we should impose term limits on all of Congress. I believe people should stop voting for nothing but lawyers in Congress, face it lawyers spend their careers trying to skirt the law and you pick them to write it ? I believe unions need to chill a bit, I understand their purpose but they play games with our tax money and are completely unreasonable at times. Where I live they cried over a 2% income slash plus a freeze at that rate for 2 years, the average teacher here makes $45,000, the slash would have dropped it to only $44,100. This is why unions frustrate me. Just some of my thoughts on the matter.
This is one of the main reasons people are occupying, the banks are still trading risky derivatives with the US taxpayer as a safety net. Were tired or the unregulated speculation that has lead to our current and global financial crisis. if you are against occupy wallstreet and you are not part of the 1% that is extracting the US's wealth you're a misinformed retard fuck
Good one..While people think it's all about hand outs,it's not...It's about making the system better..People are calling it class warfare,simply because we need to eliminate them from stealing from what is entitled to the government and country...Just because someone is rich does not mean they can't be thieves!
today was such a shitty day for me and you just made the rest of it rock... thanks!
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I am an American in the good ole USA and I dont claim to know alot but what I do know is there is none of that get up and go national pride anymore when it comes to capitalisam and US industry anymore. When the words Made in USA meant something and we were respected throughout the world. The super rich now think globaly now and the USA is just another deteriorating landmass to them. Or heres another theory....they are so rich the only thing they want now is power and to destroy any nation with a large middle classes soverigntry. Hungry poor people=easier to controll. Very sad to say and trust me...their day will come..the real Americans and people in other nations like us (look at some of the Middle East happenings) will rise up and say enough is enough. Hopefully before it's too late. From my point of view my homeland has gone from being a great country (still is in many ways) , a Democracy to some kind of facist state where the military is more and more used for coorperations and banks and not defense.
Right on man, theres been a fair bit of talk about that stuff in the world of social theory, ideas talking about the way corporations have become global, almost like nation states in them selves in terms of the wealth and power they can exercise and that the traditional idea of nation states US, Australia, etc. & etc. will become eclipsed by, and rendered subordinate to, the needs of these massive corporations. Scary stuff, in some ways we look like we are on the threshold of a new era in which big brother is not your government but the corporation that owns your government.
All i know is the chick with 3 million doesnt have a ring on and i know how to operate a light switch, but it would be nice if 40% of my check did not go to taxes
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One thing the rest of the world has to understand is that the camera's make it look like some big thing, but there are more news camera crews and tourist there than protesters..... They really don't represent the country as a whole....
Myself I have more anger towards Chris Dodd and Barney Frank than some CEO that makes lots of money..Our economic problems can be traced back to Dodd and Frank and their destruction of the housing market...When the economy is good nobody gives two shits about Wall Street....
And shit a million dollars , 1%er don't make me laugh..
they give about a million dollars a day away on some game shows shit the post the other day with the guy who has the 100 pound scrotum needs about a million for a few operation's
its really just enough to get you into trouble..if it was a gift cut out about 37% in taxes right there easy..
beside's , this illusion called money , you cant breath it in, nor drink it and its only worth anything cause its backed by good faith .. well, trust no one..
look at all the powerful monetary systems in our worlds history , they all wind up in culmination of wealth with the few ..and inevitable collapse, it's like playing monopoly at the end of the game someone has it all..
funny thing is on our Global high speed market of today , we are watching in real time the tipping scale of wealth in the world , leaving many nations that once had everything going for them , now are surely faced with doom if things don't change , ..
hahahhaahha this is great! finally! you know all this time i thought all of you were just perverts (including myself) but now i know. just take a look at how much you have written,....and with meaning.... this a great day in h666. don't get me wrong i'm not saying your not witty and sharp, but for the most part our discusions/comments about unimportant themes.
to read all this angst, anger and (another word with A)... to feel like,.. DAMN your finally getting the bigger picture, i'm really surprised, it's not a gaper or a tranny.. it's not a midget fucking a dog thrown from a rooftop or a dude breaking bottles with his own ass while trying to cum, NO, it's not some hot pix of random women with unworldly insertions.... NO... it's you, me, all of us norm.
...hehe and i don't even think i read the word nigger once on this thread. it's a proud moment!
cheers fuckers! (and let it burn... nature has a way of putting things right)
and i'm happy you're so interested.
so of course they have no problem giving away something they didnt earn. and as far as wall street. no body held a gun to your head and said you had to invest in anything.
you have to have a student loan to go to college. you need a loan to buy a car. you need a loan to buy a house. you could of course save for years and years and years while paying taxes on your income and savings untill you could afford these things yourself. the problem is that a banks will gladly take your money, and reinvest it. if they make money then YAY bonuses, the people giving the money see nothing of the shared investment. if they lose the money, YAY bonuses the people who pay taxes will give us more money to invest...its essentially greedily blowing all the money they make, but then when they turn a profit off of the charity, making no return.
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