Raped while drunk and dressed like a slut
Our culture says in these circumstances rape is fair game. What do you think ?
by catalin 11 months ago (Fri, Jul 06, 2012) in Discussion (NSFW)
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danm1764 | 11 months ago | +1 -4Brendan Fraser's Slow Clap....
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- deleted | 11 months ago | +21 -2Can't plus you enough. Just look at the smirk on her face, it's like she's not even taking it seriously cause she knows it's bullshit.
GODnGuns | 11 months ago | +11 -1Her next rapist is standing behind her he just doesn't know it yet.
- deleted | 11 months ago | +4 -3im so glad u took the time to photoshop that becuase i was about to rant about what she said but u did it to the point bravo way better than anything i could have said and its exactly true she just dosent want people to know shes a slut, and even if she did get "raped" if she flirted and got the guy horny then she already pretty much agreed to sex so in most court systems he deff would go free cause everyone knows the only reason guys marry chicks is so they know not to fuck every guy they see lol
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- BrianLara | 11 months ago | +1 -6Why are you so quick to assume she made it up, its attitudes like this that explain why rape convictions are so low. 'She was drunk so she maybe she forgot that she consented' or 'she was dressed like a slut, so she was asking for it'....Or maybe someone took advantage of her being drunk and raped her.
SkiOne | 11 months ago | +13Read her story, she dressed all slutty, got drunk and went into a stairwell with some guy she met at a bar. If my girl did that alone she would be done. Plus she never says she said no. She probably passed out while getting laid.- deleted | 11 months ago | +2 -1amen besides if bitches gave it up more there would be less real rapists in the world, and if some would stop giving it to everyone they wouldent have to act like they got raped, wemon are fucking crazy some of the cheerleaders form my 06 graduating class fucked a pill dealers rottwiler becuase they were hard up
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- BrianLara | 11 months ago | +1 -6It says he left her in a stairwell not that she voluntarily went there with him. Either way I'll happily concede that some women cry rape, however I find it disgusting that the default reaction to this kind of thing is that its been made up, its why most women don't report it, they think that no one will believe them
- SomeOleBullshit | 11 months ago | +7 -3I don't know why most women don't report rape.
But it SURE AS FUCK is NOT because they think no one will believe them.
All a woman has to do is say the word rape and a guys name. He will be in cuffs in short order.
Silke | 11 months ago | +5 -1If that's what she feels I'm sorry and hope she gets over it. But the same culture she's talking about says it's cool to drink, it's also cool to be drunk. And some people still think it's cool to drink and drive. But nobody thinks it's cool if you kill someone with your car when you are drunk. Her rapist took her pussy out for a spin while she/they were drunk and the morning after there are consiquences.
southern_aristocrat15 | 11 months ago | +73 -2[image]A brief reenactment from the night in question.- [ Pointless Comment by xHATR3Dx was filtered ] Show (1 descendent comments)
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bigmekanik | 11 months ago | +2shouldnt that be a "beef" re-enactment of the night in question? Jeezum he hit her w/ a tube of sausage.....
camp89 | 11 months ago | +8 -10Notice how this Cock-Fu move was executed with a circumcised penis. This particular move cannot be done with foreskin as the recipient would just laugh then get sick from the smell.
ray13star | 11 months ago | +28The problem is, women are told and know before going out dressed like a slut and drinking like an alcoholic that there are men out there who will do this to them. However, they are: too stupid to believe it, don't care, or want to get fucked so they can blame someone for their own personal issues. Most don't care but when faced with the facts the next day that they were promiscuous and can't handle their liquor instead play the blame game on 'society'. Take ownership of your own slutty behavior for once and realize that YOU are perpetuating the sluttiness in society.
TheAscendentPilgrim | 11 months ago | +2I say God Damn! You are absolutely right! I even got a boner from reading you! HAHA
Festezio | 11 months ago | +27 -3Her rapist doesn't know he's a rapist cause she cave him consent...
LizardQueen | 11 months ago | +3 -1Exactly! A woman I knew in college said no means no. I said, what if you're in bed with the guy, and you're both naked? She said again, no means no. I said that's playing a bullshit game, and you get what you ask for. Some women stupidly have the idea they can cry rape, when they really just don't want to admit they made a mistake.- Festezio | 11 months ago | +2That's why I have such a hard time picking up chicks at the bar. You bring em home, do whatcha gotta do, and next thing you know, she's crying rape. If you haven't witnesses you're pretty much fucked.
- LizardQueen | 11 months ago | +1Maybe you should print out a consent form, and have her sign it before you take her home lol. That way, YOUR ass is covered. Sad that it's come to that.
xrapex | 11 months ago | +31 -9You put yourself in that situation. If you know dressing a certain way will get certain attention then why subject yourself to it? You can dress however you want but keep in mind men are men and men are assholes.- xrapex | 11 months ago | +26 -2Also in no way am I condoning this type of behavior. I'd never let my daughter walk outside looking like a slut.
Whadafuk4 | 11 months ago | +3Yeah... neither would I, but she'd either take them in her bag or borrow a friend's clothes. Teenage females are more irrational than males when it comes to fitting in.
Jfritz | 11 months ago | +3then that's when you lock them in their room unless they want an escort where they are going. you are responsable for your children, you don't "have" to let them go out and have friends. If they aren't a good kid, whip them in shape- Whadafuk4 | 11 months ago | +1I was talking about other people's kids. My daughter will know better... or else.
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- BrianLara | 11 months ago | +4 -9What about women who get dragged into alleyways and raped in the middle of the day on their way home from school or work, is that their fault. Most sexual attacks are committed by people the victim knows is it still the victim's fault? Stop trying to rationalise rape because it doesn't matter how the victim is dressed.
- deleted | 11 months ago | +42 -1Quitcherbitchen. One of my best friends in highschool got down with a drunk slut at a party at KSU. We watched that chic pull his cock out, rub his hands on her pussy and beg for a poundin. He found a room and did. She continued to frisk him for the remainder of the night. She begged him to take her home and he refused (his fiance would have had a problem with that). A week later we are getting drunk with some good friends, and the police kicked in the door and took him away on a warrant. 2yrs later the charges were dismissed due to video that night (that the prosecution tried to have suppressed). That slut was at the Cleveland slutwalk a couple months ago with a similar sign. I called her a whore and the police removed me from a public park for practicing my free speech.
Moral of the story - even bitches that think they got raped, didnt necessarily get raped. I am willing to bet this bitch with a smirk was the same way.- TheAscendentPilgrim | 11 months ago | +2Exactly! I love fucking whores... alas... I hate fucking loving them!
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- BrianLara | 11 months ago | +3 -8So some women crying rape means that all reported rapes are false allegations....
minear | 11 months ago | +14No but getting drunk and cheating on your boyfriend and then using rape as an excuse is fucking trashy. Now if the guy slipped a roofie...that is rape. If the girl is kissing all over you and grabbing your cock...well then thats just a slut with a poor excuse.- SomeOleBullshit | 11 months ago | +6 -1Right, If you gave her the shit to get her messed up. Then it's your fault, and you should get the book thrown at you.
But if she dresses in a way to get sexual attention, then gets drunk/high/ect and then initiates the sexual act, or goes along with it...
- SomeOleBullshit | 11 months ago | +5 -1Yeah, because we all claimed that on here.
Wait... No one did? It's only you?
I see what you did there. When you put a dumb fucking statement in our collective mouths. When you assign some stupid point to our side of the issue. It's really easy for you to debate that stupid point. The only problem is.... no one said that.
Rebut a real point, or shut up.
- SomeOleBullshit | 11 months ago | +7 -1@ brianlara.
You are talking about something altogether different.
No one here is trying to rationalize rape you fuck.
What we are trying to say is that when a woman gets drunk, asks for it, begs for it, or initiates it.... well then its not rape.
A woman saying "it's rape because I was drunk" should have no more legal standing than a man saying "I can help that I ran over those people because I was drunk" It's the same goddamned worthless excuse.
Don't get me wrong, men who force themselves on women should have their penis removed. On the other side of that argument though... What should we do to women who ruin a mans life because she regretted being a whore and called it rape?- SomeOleBullshit | 11 months ago | +2 -1Hmm, all of these comments have are at leas 4 but there is one neg. Seems like I have my first phantom negger.
- SomeOleBullshit | 11 months ago | +1Shut the fuck up and upload something.
Though, by your profile, you do seem to have good taste in music.
HOOSIERDADDY | 11 months ago | +18I can't see her tits or anything with that damn poster in the way!- SomeOleBullshit | 11 months ago | +1HAHAHA!!
On most sites that would be off topic.
On Heaven666 this is the first ON topic comment on here.
Plus to you!
shedwig | 11 months ago | +16 -2What if he drank too much too? And you were both too incapacitated to understand what was going on? What if his girlfriend and friends treated him the same way? And he feels just as much regret as her? Thats not rape, thats a drunken one night stand an the culture of heavy drinking until you pass out is at fault or that- deleted | 11 months ago | +1That was part of my buddies defense. It was rape because SHE was drunk, and you cannot give consent while wasted. After video evidence came out, it was determined that SHE was the one doing the rapin'. When the trial was over, my buddy asked for charges against her, and he was told to fuck off.
- SomeOleBullshit | 11 months ago | +6Yeah, its a fucked up world we live in where being drunk means you aren't responsible for your actions if your a girl who regrets fucking some stranger.
But if a man takes a drink and as a wreck being drunk is no defense.
Flat out, you are responsible for everything you do while drunk. If you can't control yourself, don't drink.
Though honestly from what I have seen in my life and my own experience drinking, being drunk doesn't make you do shit you normally wouldn't do, or want to do. But it does give you an excuse, so people take that as an opportunity to be their real selves that they normally don't let show through
fickle1 | 11 months ago | +1If you go through withdrawls you forget shit that went on, if you pass out, you have alcohol poisening and need get to the hospital.
IZHMASH | 11 months ago | +13have a few drinks, but keep your wits about you. If you get piss as drunk, and present yourself that you are "good to go", then some blame is on you. There is this new great thing called "situational awareness", and it works best when your not shit faced. There are bad people in the world, and if you give them a chance they will rape you silly.
fkbisme | 11 months ago | +13 -2Some of you guys are so cool, I'm so impressed. I don't give a fuck how she was dressed, how drunk she was, or if she was making out with the dude and grabbing his cock all night. If she said no to getting fucked than it's rape. You all would be saying different shit if it was your daughters, sisters, moms, or old ladies. There is a thing called responsibility for your actions but that goes both ways not just for her. Now, with that being said, we don't know what went down that night and I think it's unfair for both parties involved to even make assumptions. Let the negging commence.
RazeCrusher | 11 months ago | +5And for the record, if my wife was out at a bar, dressed like a whore, rubbing on other guys' cocks and making out with them...I'd probably laugh in her face if she got raped, before going to get my divorce documents in order. :P
- deleted | 11 months ago | +5She didn't say she said no at any point, plus she says he doesn't know? If he desn't know then how the hell can he actually be a rapist? If she said no and he still did it then he would know he is a rapist, if he was completely sober then he better watch his back, but she didn't say he was sober either. It's a fucking urban myth at this point.
- deleted | 11 months ago | +4...or some fem cunt trying to manipulate society into believing a woman is a victim if she is under any kind of influence during intercourse.
- SomeOleBullshit | 11 months ago | +2This. This a hundred times.
If a woman is under any influence of drugs or alcohol you, as the man are supposed to see in to the future and scry her emotional state for the next morning and see if she regrets it.
Again, I'm not trying to sound pro rape here. I think in cases where they can prove rape beyond all doubt they should castrate the fucker.
- SomeOleBullshit | 11 months ago | +3Let the plussing commence.
Seriously I like what you said.
If a woman says no, then its rape. No doubt about it.
Only... I don't think she said no. She doesn't say she did on her sign.
She says her rapist doesn't know hes a rapist. Leading me to believe she never said no. The way I take her and her sign is.... "he should have known that I was drunk and making bad decisions, and should have turned my willing ass down"- SomeOleBullshit | 11 months ago | +1By the way fkbisme, "let the plussing commence" was directed at you.
- RazeCrusher | 11 months ago | +2 -1Agree, only problem is, we don't know if she said "no" or if she's just pissed because she fucked some guy and got busted by her boyfriend so now she's trying to shift the blame and play the victim, seems the more likely scenario to me. It's all in the context of the sign imo.
- fkbisme | 11 months ago | +2That's exactly why I said we don't know what went down and it's unfair for Both parties to make assumptions.
- deleted | 11 months ago | +8If you ain't selling don't advertise. Women are some of the most self conscious and self aware creatures on the planet, especially when it comes to what they wear. So when a woman dresses like a whore, it's because she wants that kind of attention. Period. If she was wearing casual jeans and a turtle neck, then I would concede. The only thing she's pissed about is the alcohol gave her reverse beer goggles and she didn't wake up with a Henry Cavil look-alike like she thought her whorish attempts were going to net for her.
- deleted | 11 months ago | +2British actor about to play Superman. Was in ssome godawful movie called Immortals. And yes, turtlenecks dl have a hot factor.
- camp89 | 11 months ago | +1The Brits are taking over cinema and television. A Brit is playing Spiderman as well. I can't stand Piers Morgan though. Just putting that out there for Her Majesty's Neggers.
PrinceChazII | 11 months ago | +8You can say no before. I won't like it, but you can say no during. But please don't say no after!
fireball80ca | 11 months ago | +8I happen to know a few good female friends that have been raped and I do not believe how a person dresses should dictate a persons chances of getting raped. Being drunk is also not really an excuse
catalin | 11 months ago | +4Plain and simple. This is a correct reaction and opinion each and everyone should have about this story. No matter how slutty (whatever than might be) or how drunk a female is if rape happens she is the victim and the raper is the aggressor. If it was a rape or not should be decided in a courtroom
psychmike | 11 months ago | +4A woman forced to have sex against her will= Rape
A woman intoxicated to the point of having poor judgement= Not rape.
wardt3 | 11 months ago | +4and a woman intoxicated enough to not realize that she's being raped would equal what then? I think that your statement sums up the whole thread rather neatly. Sex is a mutual agreement. You're seeing it as though it is an assumed agreement unless the woman can state it is against her will.......that's ass backwards.- psychmike | 11 months ago | +2I'm not talking about a woman who's passed out. I'm talking about a woman who takes 15 shots of cuervo and makes a bad decision.
- SomeOleBullshit | 11 months ago | +1You're ass backwards. Again with putting the argument you want to rebut into psychmike's mouth.
AshesDust | 8 months ago | +1Unfortunately, if she is too traumatized to call the police right away, or if he raped her without leaving a mark/semen, the conviction doesn't always stand. It's a really shitty situation, and is a big reason why rapes aren't reported.
Think about it, if you know the only way to prove this guy raped you was with his DNA and you had flipped out and showered because you felt so violated... Well, there goes the proof. And you get to sit in a courtroom in front of a huge group of strangers (mostly men) while they listen to every sordid detail, before the defense attourney (usually male) has a go at destroying your character and trying to make it seem like you're a slut who was asking for it.
Really, who in their right mind would want to go through that? A lot of the time, it ends up being even worse than the rape, having to relive it over and over and face your rapist and have people make disgusting remarks about you. It's fucking awful.- AshesDust | 8 months ago | +1Oh, and when there's no semen still on/in you, and no bruises? You get told you didn't get raped.
Fucking awesome.
jackburns | 11 months ago | +7This should not happen to anyone, but having said that, if you are not in a safe place don't get stupid drunk. Bad things might happen when you can't take care of yourself around other drunk strangers. And people say the internet is a dangerous place to meet people.
Risen | 11 months ago | +11 -4I would never say it's a womans fault that a man cannot control himself. If you think woman shouldn't dress a certain way I guess you should just become Muslim. that was their solution to not being able to control desire......- IZHMASH | 11 months ago | +11And i wear body armor when i go to bad neighborhoods. Maby dont wear crotchless panties and a miniskirt around drunk assholes.... Dress for the occasion
- Risen | 11 months ago | +5 -3clothing has nothing to do with a rape. drinking could have made this event happen. people tend to become a hell of alot more agreeable when drunk. But just dressing sexy doesn't mean someone is asking for it. To me someone is "asking for it" when they are literally "asking for it".
- IZHMASH | 11 months ago | +5Unless he poured all those smirnov ices down her throat, that is on her for getting shit faced and loosing her wits. I love to have a drink on occasion, but i know when to quit. Dont get black out drunk and be surprised when you have fucked something you wouldnt normaly fuck
- fickle1 | 11 months ago | +1Is getting 'extremely wasted' or 'roofied' some sort of viagra for girls?
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pimflax | 11 months ago | +2 -6So if a man is walking around with a gun in front of a police station and ask them not to shoot him but he wont give up the gun, are they not going to shoot him? Fuck yes they are. Same thing with a woman, if she is wearing provocative clothing then she shold expect men to oggle, try to grab and gropings because she knew she went out and dressed like a slut so she shold be treated like one. Just IMHO.- IZHMASH | 11 months ago | +8Not so much, but using some sense doesnt hurt. I never walk through the ghetto with my eyes closed and hundred dollar bills sticking out of my pockets.
- Risen | 11 months ago | +4so using common sense.... A woman should not dress sexy at a Party, a bar, or any where that drinks and men are present? I wonder where a woman should be allowed to dress sexy?
- psychmike | 11 months ago | +3She's allowed to do whatever she wants, but like everyone else, she must deal with the possible consequences. I can call some 6'9" black dude "nigger". It doesn't excuse him physically assaulting me, but it is certainly a possibility. If you dress & act like a slut and get raped, no, it isn't your fault, it's his. But you still got raped. Does not being in the wrong make a victim feel better?
- psychmike | 11 months ago | +1"asking for it" is an expression, not literal. Back to the analogy, if I'm in that dude's face yelling "nigger nigger nigger!" and get knocked out, yes, I'm a victim, but a lot of folks would say I was "asking for it".
- Risen | 11 months ago | +4apples and oranges my friend. the analogy is used to make people feel better about the person who did the raping, as in "that sucks that fred got convicted of rape, cause she was totally asking for it". if you were at a party and drank too much and someone lifted your wallet, would it be a crime? or would you have just asked for it?
HoHoSnackins | 11 months ago | +3Terrible analogy. Did someone "sneak rape" this chick? Did they penetrate her cooter without her knowledge? If I got drunk at a party and handed over my wallet, that would be a more correct analogy. In that case, yeah I was asking for it.- Risen | 11 months ago | +1so how do you know she wasn't passed out? when it happened? or wasn't too drunk comprehend the situation. Ever heard of roofies? It does happen. Some idiot that can't get laid any other way takes advantage of the situation.
- SomeOleBullshit | 11 months ago | +2@ risen.
I think everyone assumes certain things about this woman because of her "i'm here for the attention" look, and she herself admits that he didn't even know he raped her.
I think it comes down to some of us thinking that she got drunk initiated/willingly had sex, regretted it and cried rape. And others of us thinking "she got drunk, passed out and got raped"- Risen | 11 months ago | +1for me it's not even about this girl, it's about how often this happen, and woman are made to feel guilty about what was done to them. It's about how often these crimes end up going in reported because the victim feels ashamed. and about how many guys feel it is justified because of how a woman dresses, or if she passes out it ok.
- psychmike | 11 months ago | +2I feel like we're having 2 different discussions. Myself and most others who posted here agree that rape is a horrible thing. Your argument is that no matter how a woman dresses or acts, it is not an excuse for someone to rape her. We ALL agree on that. No one is arguing that it is ever OK to force yourself on a woman or have sex when a woman is passed out. What I (and many others) are arguing is that a drunk woman who gives consent when she normally wouldn't is NOT a "rape" victim. She is a victim of her own altered judgemmet and lowered inhibitions/standards.
I don't think either of those points are actually in contention.
- psychmike | 11 months ago | +2Apples and Oranges? An unjustified act of violence committed by a perpetrator who felt justified in his actions by the behavior of the victim. Seems pretty congruent to me. In both cases the victims were acting in a manner that is well within their rights. However, those same actions brought about the subsequent attack. It's not right, but actions have consequences, and that's life.
- Risen | 11 months ago | +2So calling someone repeated racial slurs is the same as being flirty and dressing sexy? Here's the problem a girl may go out and flirt and drink a bit, hell she may even want to fuck but that doesn't mean she wants it from the guy who is wanting her. she has that choice. How she acts or dress doesn't matter until she gives consent it's rape.
- psychmike | 11 months ago | +1The same in the sense that both are excising there right to freedom of expression and suffer for it. I agree that without consent, sex is rape. But to argue that a persons behavior cannot influence the actions of others is fantasy.
DrunkenPiano | 11 months ago | +4In a perfect world you could do either but it's not. I think it's really sad that people in general don't have the freedom to do whatever they want out of fear they could be persecuted or just flat out hurt for it.
No amount of alcohol consumption has ever made me decide to get violent with someone, especially a woman. It makes it a little easier to deal with any dumb decisions you may have made the night before but if having a few drinks can make your moral compass do a complete 360 than perhaps there's just something wrong with you.
...Unfortunately I think that women should be aware that they're probably going to more attention based on the way they dress and just be smart about it, and make sure you have a decent set of friends around they wont leave your ass behind if you get so drunk you can't function (which shouldn't be happening in the first place).
People do 'ask for it' without 'asking for it' recognizing body language at the right time is probably the only reason I get laid with any regularity.
- deleted | 11 months ago | +5 -4If a woman is dressing to elicit a sexual response (ie, dressed sexy) and flirts with a dude, guess what... she is asking for it.
- fickle1 | 11 months ago | +1not really a lot of ways women dress can be for fun like a halloween party or for the pre-cognition women have for when they are going to have sex, dressing sexy is a 'sex thing', but that doesn't make it a whore thing.
- SomeOleBullshit | 11 months ago | +4Dude... you had me at first... with your analogy, but when you said a woman should expect to be grabbed, you crossed the line.
Now if shes flirting with you and all up on you, and you both go for a kiss or a grab. Then that's ok. But just because a girl is looking fine doesn't give you the right to violate her.
- deleted | 11 months ago | +3It's notbmy fault that I get my black ass kicked a a KKK rally, but I would never show to a KKK rally because I understand the kind of attention it would draw. Which is possibly negative and violent. A woman should use the same rationale when she's getting dressed to hit the streets. You have to consider that we live in a world of idiots and we have to do certain things to stay off an idiot's radar. And I love Americans who think that only Muslims are guilty of mysoginism. Please,
watch old episodes of Leave It To Beaver and note how on modern American television the fat, ugly fucker is married to a hot chick. I am very American in my way of thinking.
kittyripper | 11 months ago | +7This movement "the slut walk" is such a stupid thing. Many of the sluts there think they are there for some kind of slut pride event. Rather than a sort of ironic statement of "how I dress doesn't mean I am a slut". They are really self defeating.
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leadsinger | 4 months ago | +1Yeah its horrible... Just disgusting...... um......where does this horrible disgusting thing happen again? Not that I want to be there for it or anything....;)
rob364 | 11 months ago | +6I wonder if the guy in the back is staring at her because she is wearing her shorts to short again and asking for it?- deleted | 11 months ago | +6It's very hard to tell a drunk woman no when shes clawing at you like a wild cat and starts going bipolar until you give in, especially when you are also drunk and wanting it as much as shes is. And as always with soberness comes guilt.
- SomeOleBullshit | 11 months ago | +2Hell yes it is. I passed up on an opportunity with a girl I had been chasing for years once. She wanted it. I wanted it. But, she was drunk so I refrained.
Wound up getting it over a year later though.
- deleted | 11 months ago | +6If I don't know how to handle a firearm I shouldn't own a gun. If I can't drink and still maintain control over my actions I guess I shouldn't slut myself up and go out to clubs/bars and be around a ton of half drunken sexual predators looking for "the easy piece of ass"..I find rape in any form a very life altering event for the victim. But what I fucking hate more than anything are people that take NO responsibility for their own actions and only look to blame someone else.We live in a culture of people that stalk weak victims everywhere. To not maintain control over yourself or your surroundings puts you at risk of things like this girls story happening to ones self . Story as old as time itself, You put yourself in a bad situation then as sure as the wind blows bad things will and always do happen.
- LizardQueen | 11 months ago | +6Since this happened in the US, and this site is international, one thing should be pointed out: states decide whether or not you can give consent while drunk. It depends entirely upon where you are at the time. Some states have laws saying that if you are intoxicated, you CANNOT give consent. Period. I do NOT agree with these laws, as there are females that are just as predatory as males.
I'd like to see some laws enacted here that prosecute females who falsely claim rape. I'm wise enough to understand, it's not always the guy who is guilty.
Assault is assault, and is always wrong. In the case posted here, there is a question as to whether there WAS an assault.
For the record, I am a victim of rape. As in, I was sober, did NOT give consent, was NOT enticing him, and tried to fight the guy off. I was lucky, as I survived. 
Healinghands | 11 months ago | +7 -2If anyone raped my Daughter and blamed it on the way she dressed, i would happily spend time in jail for the retribution i would hand out.- SomeOleBullshit | 11 months ago | +1No doubt. I have younger siblings and family members, and friends I would all do that same for.
But is it rape if she poured the alcohol down her neck, then got all up on some guy?
sexualharassmentpanda | 11 months ago | +5if he was drunk to she is just as much a rapist as he supposedly is.- leadsinger | 11 months ago | +6 -1IT IS YOUR FAULT! I don't mean to be an asshole, but you have to take responsibility for your own actions. YOU are the one who chose to get drunk to the point of losing control. You can't blame anyone else for that. If you chose to let yourself lose control, you are the one to blame. NO ONE Take! Take personal responsibility and quit shifting blame onto anyone but yourself.
- catalin | 11 months ago | +5Again what if you drink and lose control and say the wrong things to some thuggs. As a result you get murdered and they are not murderers because you were asking for it. God damn there is nothing in the world a woman can do to ask for it. Just like noone can ask for mureder. Murder happens just like rape, but when it does the victim should be treated as a victim and the aggressor as an aggressor
- RazeCrusher | 11 months ago | +3Of course it's not alright for the thugs to do it, but the victim, as bad as it is to say, should've known better. If you go rock climbing, and due to faulty equipment or inexperience, you fall to your death from a mountainside. It sucks yea, but it's a hazard that comes with the territory. Rape is never okay, but there's a difference between forced rape and a drunken one-night stand.
- catalin | 11 months ago | +3 -1No, why does everyone implies if a woman is drunk than it is/was a drunken one night stand. Has anyone heard of presumtion of innocence ? Why does everyone presumes she was hitting on guys, rubbing on their dicks. Why not consider she was drunk and got raped. And that is still rape. Just as murder is still murder even if both parties victim/aggressor were drunk
wessy | 11 months ago | +4 -1#1 it doesnt say she said no, #2 it says he doesnt know he "raped" her, so i take from this that she was consenting BECAUSE she was all hammed up, then had second thoughts in the morning. #3 I see this more of a: person wants to die, so they get in their car and drive into on coming traffic into a truck. there by achieving death by some one elses hand and not resulting in a murder charge, instead it was an "accident" I'm sure the guy was hammed up too. on a side not why is alcohol even still legal, and weed is not.
- RazeCrusher | 11 months ago | +3If a woman is drunk and has a one night stand...yes, I'd say it's a drunken one-night stand...As for the rubbing on dicks and stuff, I don't know if she did or not. But the message I get from the sign is just that. A drunken one-night stand, where she got busted by her boyfriend and her friends found out, thus calling her trash. Very few guys are going to call their girlfriends sluts, and very few friends are going to ditch a friend if she was legitimately raped. I'm just speaking for this one instance, not in general, which obviously rape is bad.
- psychmike | 11 months ago | +1Wow...what about the presumption of innocence for the guy, who (sounds like) was never convicted of raping this girl? No presumption of innocence for him Cat? Like Raze said, I doubt this girls Boyfriend AND friends would turn on her if she was legitimately raped. Their actions suggest they know she was not raped.
- SomeOleBullshit | 11 months ago | +1Is everyone afraid to neg catalin because he runs the place?
Not that his comments are negworthy in my opinion, it's just there are a lot of negs flying around here, and none land on him.
- SomeOleBullshit | 11 months ago | +2When I say "asking for it" I do not mean what you mean. Or what the whole "slutwalk" people mean when they put the asking for it issue out there.
When I say "asking for it" I literally mean she asks you to put your penis in her vagina and make a reciprocating motion.
I agree with you 100% there is nothing in this world that can justify a man forcing himself on a woman when she does not want sex, or is unable to refuse sec (unconsciousness, ect.) That is always rape, no matter how skimpy she was dressed, or how much she flirted. It's rape if she doesn't want it, or doesn't know its happening.
It's not rape if she goes along with it, even if shes drunk, it's her fault for getting drunk and going along with a sexual act she might have otherwise refused when sober.- fickle1 | 11 months ago | +1Alcohol isn't seen as a drug in a lot of societies, also you get very sick usually before you can actually overdose.
- BrianLara | 11 months ago | +3 -1So what if she 'lost control', its not an invitation to get raped is it? Why don't you criticise the guy that raped her....no one deserves to experience that
- TheAscendentPilgrim | 11 months ago | +2 -2She didn't even experienced it... she was fucking shit faced.
- BrianLara | 11 months ago | +1Would you say that of your daughter had her drink spiked, oh it doesn't matter its not like you felt it....Fuck off
- TheAscendentPilgrim | 11 months ago | +2Come on Brian! We are talking different subjects here (both of them really easy to mix). She clearly states in her fucking protest banner that SHE DRANK TOO MUCH. It is OODLES away from spiking naive girls drinks. A person MUST HAVE a measure of self control and awareness of environment danger... if not... then shit! Good luck! It's a fucking DARWINIAN WORLD out there!
- BrianLara | 11 months ago | +2But we're not really, if her drink was spiked its the rapists fault, but if she was shitfaced and got taken advantage of its her fault. I dont buy that, either way the man should know better. People on here saying she either she consented but was too drunk to remember or that she deserved for dressing like a slut, all the blame is on her but no one wants to address the fact that she might have actually been raped.
- SomeOleBullshit | 11 months ago | +1I honestly think you are the one who came up with the whole issue about "dressing like a slut"
It doesn't matter how she dressed. If she got drunk and made a bad choice it is her fault. If she went along with the sex it's her fault. It's not rape just because she was drunk.
You are still responsible for your actions when you are drunk.
Again... if she said no, was incapable of saying no, or tried to fight him off, or was passed out. Those are all rape. But her having regret over poor choices =/= rape.
ShittlesRainbow | 11 months ago | +5That was one of the wildest night I ever had........but I didnt hear her say I dont want to make out with you,stop!, dont,dont touch me,i dont want your cock,dont stick it in me. To say the least most people need to learn to just admit to their own faults. Promiscuity and lowered inhibitions occur when you have a bit too much to drink. Dont just blame the alcohol or the other person but also yourself for getting caught up in such an unfortunate situation.- catalin | 11 months ago | +5From all the comments I see that this holds true and actually the society considers a rape victim that was dressed slutty to be less of a victim. To have been asking for it. I hope each of you don't get down that alley because spending time in prison for rape isnot something you would want.
- shedwig | 11 months ago | +4This is the reason most prostitutes don't report rape, because allot of people believe it's impossible to rape a prostitute. Whilst what a woman wears or even how drunk she gets doesn't mean she deserves or asks to be raped, something just doesn't ring true in this womans story.
- catalin | 11 months ago | +2I agree, we can make a distinction and say we don't buy the story. I am not saying it is true. But what I am saying is that it can be true, it can very well be a woman's story. And the instinctive reaction we have in such situation is: she was asking for it.
- shedwig | 11 months ago | +1It's because for all the progress we have made the world is still a patriarchal society.
- SomeOleBullshit | 11 months ago | +1I don't think many people have the reaction "she was asking for it"
In the sense that she attracted the man, willingly or not, so she has to suffer his sexual advances.
Drweld | 11 months ago | +1 -1Cat, I got a confession to make.... I'm a rapist, I have raped so many drunk girls with sexy clothes that came to me in a bar or club, and get very close, I thought they just wanted to fuck because we kissed and she grabbed my dick and make me took them to my hotel room, only now I understand it was all rape.
- SomeOleBullshit | 11 months ago | +1 -1Well... prostitutes and rape. That is an odd thing. The prostitute has no purity of sexuality to be violated. Is it rape if you don't pay? Or is it theft of services? Or does that only apply when she is on the job?
- shedwig | 11 months ago | +2Purity of sexuality? So if you've had a dick in you so many times you become free game for anyone? It's a body that gets violated, not sexual purity. If a guy doesn't pay after that's not rape, the same rules apply to prostitute rape as for rape of a non sex worker.
- RazeCrusher | 11 months ago | +2I don't think it's so much that Cat, as that...it's hard to tell if it WAS actually rape, or if this girl is just being an attention whore. Don't know enough of the actual story from the picture, plus we're only hearing one side of the argument...hers.
- catalin | 11 months ago | +2It may be a photoshop cartboard as far as I'm concerned. But to have doubts, if the first thought that comes to our minds is: dressed slutty drunk = her fault, than what that board is saying is true. The society has a misconception and a prejudice when it comes to drunk women dressed slutty
- deleted | 11 months ago | +1Assuming her story is true, a man to have sex with an intoxicated women should be a crime, vise versa lest they be both drunk then it's a catch22 Both "Rapist Victims"
- SomeOleBullshit | 11 months ago | +1Exactly.
This honestly has to be one of the first comments of yours that wasn't completely off the wall i have read.
- leadsinger | 5 months ago | +1Dressing slutty has absolutely nothing to do with it. It's the simple fact that if you are a guy or a girl and you get drunk beyond your own ability for self control, whatever happens is on you. It's a brutal truth but it is the truth. Only you are responsible for yourself.
- sexualharassmentpanda | 11 months ago | +1 -1but why does it have to be someones fault? People should be allowed to dress however they please and not be raped in a dark ally somewhere lol but her story says "my rapist does not know he is a rapist". Im pretty sure if a guy rapes someone he is well aware of it if they were both drunk I would consider it to dummys getting to plastered to make good decisions not blame one or the other
- wardt3 | 11 months ago | +3The sign is saying that because he had been taught that when a girl dresses slutty and is drunk it isn't considered rape. Therefore, he didn't know he was a rapist. Why is everyone reading this so differently?
- sexualharassmentpanda | 11 months ago | +2ok but if he was drunk as well and they both decided to have sex how is he a rapist and she is not? that is saying that men have to take responsibility for both themselves and all of the women around them when they go out drinking and I understand her story does not say he was drunk as well but it also does not say he was sober."Rapist" is a pretty heavy label to give someone and the word should not be slung around just because she regrets it.If she is participating in the act with him she was not being raped she is having drunken sex
- wardt3 | 11 months ago | +2I agree that both parties are mutually responsible. My gripe has more to do with the collective comments on this thread, not just yours. The general tone of the responses on this thread clearly puts the responsibility squarely on the woman's shoulders just because she made "poor choices" about clothing and alcohol.........as if all men are just waiting to assault women, but for the fact that you women may be sober and can tell us "No." But if given a enough alcohol and under the right circumstances, it would be acceptable for men to assault women, because that's apparently what men do naturally. That line of thinking is dangerous and wrong.......and I don't mean just morally wrong. We're not all creeping around trolling for the next drunken hottie. Some are, but most aren't. If we give in to that line of thinking, aren't we just letting the real creeps off the hook?
I don't know if what the woman's sign says is true or not......only she knows, and I'm sure the guy probably sees it differently. However, the gist of her sign is to show the reader that we have looked the other way if a women wearing sexy clothes having some drinks gets sexually assaulted. Somehow, "she should have known better."- sexualharassmentpanda | 11 months ago | +1I guess my main issue with it was more or less he should not automatically be demonized because he happened to have the penis in the situation because when every guy involved in a drunken one night stand is labeled a rapist then we do lose sight of the actual creepos who are hurting people.I get where you are coming from certainly its not all her fault but its also not all his fault people get drunk and get stupid if you want to drink safely do it at home with friends instead of out with a bunch of potential weirdos or at least bring friends with you to stop you and say "hey I don't think your boyfriend would take to kindly to you fucking that guy" to watch your back there are things we can do to protect ourselves for regretful situations instead of placing all of the blame on someone else
- SomeOleBullshit | 11 months ago | +1Most of the guys saying shes full of shit aren't really bringing up the clothing thing. Mostly its the "oh that poor woman" side that is putting the "dressed slutty" argument in our mouths so they have some strawman issue to go after by arguing a point we never made.
- SomeOleBullshit | 11 months ago | +1No man thinks he can force himself on a woman because she is dressed slutty. Seriously, no man thinks that. And if they do they are a rapist fuck who would rape a girl given the chance no matter how she was dressed.
- SomeOleBullshit | 11 months ago | +1@sexualharassmentpanda
Two, too, and to are all three different words with different meanings.- sexualharassmentpanda | 11 months ago | +1@someolebullshit you don't need to put the stupid ass @ sign just reply to me and I will see you are a kind of being a douche and point it out for you then I will tell you to go to hell and take your @ thing with you too and and times that by two :) butt head
- SomeOleBullshit | 11 months ago | +1I really don't think anyone is saying that.
Dressing sluty in no way taints the victom's victomness, or in no way lessens the rapists horrible crime.
Some people are saying... don't play with fire, as far as women being physically weaker, and men being more predatory sexually, and skimpy clothing being an eye catcher.
- RazeCrusher | 11 months ago | +5If your ex-boyfriend spits in your face, and your friends ditch you and call you trash because you got "raped" they obviously know a little more information on this story than we do...
- SomeOleBullshit | 11 months ago | +2No one spit in this girls face because of rape. No friends left her because of rape. Hell, her friends wouldn't have left her even if she was guilty of a one night stand. However he friends might have left her if they knew she was lying and ruining some guys life by spreading her lie.
- SkiOne | 11 months ago | +4If I walk down a dark street in a bad neighborhood and get mugged, it isn't my fault but I was fucking stupid for being there in the first place.
- catalin | 11 months ago | +9But what if you get murdered in the process of getting mugged ? And what if society would say it was your fault instead of prosecuting the authors. This is a more appropriate comparison. Rape is not some sort of a sexual play. It is not mugging. It is physical abuse. In my book it is like having the life beat out of you but you somehow make it
pigeons99 | 11 months ago | +4I would say, if a person declines consent, no matter what the circumstance, then to proceed against their will is a rape. However, alcohol does, in part, cast a doubt on someone's accusation and defence as it can do in all cases, because it may either effect memory or lead to diminished responsibility.
However, a person should also be aware of their actions. Whilst technically you should be able to dress how you wish and act in a sexually attractive way and not be raped, it is a consequence you must accept, just like parking a car with nice rims in a bad neighbourhood may mean they are gone when you come back, or walking around with an expensive watch on your wrist and phone to your ear in a dodgy place have you relieved of your possessions. Technically you should be free to park your car or openly display your items in a bad place, but the reality is that may lead to criminal consequences. Right or wrong.- wardt3 | 11 months ago | +1great analogies, but if you saw them stealing your rims couldn't you (wouldn't you) call the police and have them arrested? You may have made a bad decision to park there, but are we really gonna say that the ACTUAL criminal is off the hook on this one? Why have laws at all then? Let's just leave everything up to everybody's "best judgement."
- SomeOleBullshit | 11 months ago | +1Of course, the wheel thief and the rapist both should never be let off the hook. The victim doing things to increase their chances of becoming a victim does not make them responsible, and it does not let the criminal off the hook either.
Pilar | 11 months ago | +4You can't ask for a crime to be committed against you under any circumstances, especially not because of the way you are dressed. That said, anyone that goes to the trouble of making a poster as detailed as this and omits the crucial elements that would make this a rape (saying no, being drugged, etc) and going so far as to start off by saying the guy doesn't even know he's a rapist, certainly doesn't suggest that she was raped. Nothing about that poster suggests that she was raped. If she was so concerned about being labeled a whore, wouldn't she at least mention that it wasn't consensual? You can't consent to sex, or any act, and when saner thought prevails, take it back. What kind of shit is this? Did everyone that has a daughter up and decide that they just some kind of prey wandering about? If she said no, stop, don't, wait, help, etc it's rape, otherwise this is just another idiot who's been taught by this "culture" she so comfortable in blaming that she's a victim because she's a woman.- IZHMASH | 11 months ago | +4 -1Dont dress like a clown, go to a childs birthday, and be surprised when someone asks you to make a balloon animal
Wagingwetard | 11 months ago | +3Damnit I knew I picked the wrong weekend to go to d.c... Would of been pussy galore during that event..- LizardQueen | 11 months ago | +1And when she sobered up the next day, you would win a free rape charge.
WarChild | 11 months ago | +3According to her, when you are under the influence you are no longer responsible for your actions. I bet if you were drunk and killed a guy/gal, they would fry your fucking ass. Where's that logic now?- AshesDust | 8 months ago | +1In most places, this would mean you'd be guilty of manslaughter, not murder.
mammarysex | 11 months ago | +4 -1Our Culture bends over backwards to provide every possible avenue of support for women who want to report rape. The only issue is the matter of Women who exploit the cushy "rape awareness" blanket:- Whadafuk4 | 11 months ago | +3I hope somebody told her stupid ass mama how to spell JUANITA... Waneeta? Really?!? I hang my head in shame.
electricalalchemy | 11 months ago | +3Its not rape if you yell "surprise" first.
But seriously, rape is in no way or ever 'fair game'. In her case, we do not have the whole story, only what we as individuals interpret from the context of the sign. Perhaps she should have had her 'rapist' come along for the walk also, carrying a sign of his side of the story.
I find it disgusting how society has lost all sense of righteousness.
bigblackjake | 11 months ago | +4 -1her sign should say:
"i'm a stupid little girl who won't take responsiility for my actions"
"whatever happens to me is ALWAYS someone else's fault NEVER my own"- SomeOleBullshit | 11 months ago | +3First off, I need to put on the conversational condom and make the point all rapists should burn, Nothing a woman does can "ask" for rape, and all rape is always bad.
That being said, does anyone else think that as a society we almost train women to think that they have to break down, spiral into depression, and just in general melt down after rape? Don't get me wrong, its bad. I hate that it happens, I hate the people who do it, and I feel so badly for the women who it happens to.
I'm not trying to trivialize rape. I'm just saying that it's possibly not in rape victims best interest that they have had it hammered into their heads since a young age that rape is so traumatizing that they have to go to near suicidal levels of depression just because it happened. - Gaelbolg | 11 months ago | +3When I went through bootcamp, they hammered it into our heads that "if he/she/it is willing and able to make the decision with full mental faculties, then go after it. If there is any doubt, back the fuck off and beat off in the shower."
TheDunwichWhore | 11 months ago | +2Our culture doesn't say under those circumstances it's fair game. Only scum would agree to that.
Beerfan | 11 months ago | +2Wasn't this posted before?? I know I've seen it. Maybe it wasn't on here...- Beerfan | 11 months ago | +2That's probably where I saw it. I remember someone made a Photoshop sign much like Zoidberg's reply above.
Pookybear | 11 months ago | +1yuppers, it was cuz my ex friend was a feminist and blamed men for everything and she used this pic as an example of men being all evil...
- camp89 | 11 months ago | +2She should've been barred from walking. This is not the attitude of a true slut. This chick has WHORE STINK all over her.
Blumpkin | 11 months ago | +2So what she's saying is she's single, low self esteem and apparently cute. She could be fun.
Misterkrock | 11 months ago | +2"I flirted... I was asking for it"... I guess that explains everything to me.- SomeOleBullshit | 11 months ago | +1Or, "It's not his fault I drank too much"
Damn straight its not.
- GODnGuns | 11 months ago | +2I'm taking a picture with a cardboard sign look at the list of comments. I'll have an attention whoregasm.
swimmingjesus | 11 months ago | +2i have mixed feelings on this, on the one hand it sucks that she got raped. that should not have happened to her or anyone. at the same time just because you can do something that will put you at a higher risk or attack/loss/whatever doesnt mean you should. just because you can jump into the tiger enclouser at the zoo doesnt mean you should or that the tiger is 100% responsable for what happens.- rakordubrovic | 11 months ago | +2There are no circumstances in which rape is acceptable. If the situation in any way indicates consent is problematic, walk the fuck away. If the sex isn't mutual, what the fuck good is it anyway?
daddyscumslut | 11 months ago | +2Being cynical doesn't make anyone impressive. Yeah a lot of chicks cry 'rape' when that's not the whole story. But a lot of women are legitimately taken advantage of by cowards and, by law, raped. And when that happens, the person who got raped shouldn't be blamed.
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