Every time I hear a crazy Jesus freak say gay marriage violates the sanctity of marriage it makes me happy. It just proves religion has no place in modern society. I support gay marriage more and more each day.
I hope people aren't taking this literally. It's like when they called Clinton the first black president. They were merely referring to his knowledge of African American people.
For what it's worth, here's my opinion on gay marriage: I'm 61 years old, I've been married (to women) three times, and they all turned out badly. Every damn time, even though I was older, more educated, and had more life experience than my spouse, she was compelled to try to be my conscience, my financial manager, my censor, my supervisor, and my fucking Warden. That shit didn't fly.... So, if gays want to marry the person they choose, I say let them do it, and good luck to them. Why should gays be denied the "pleasures" and responsibilities of marriage?
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My wife and I married straight out of highschool at 18 years of age . Today just happens to be our 29th anniversary . I am very lucky , she does none of those things . She on the other hand , has had to put up with my hard to get along with ass . I don't even undertsand how she does it . My marriage has been , and still is a pleasure . Let everyone have a chance . Hopefully they have my luck and not yours .
lol... pleasures of marriage... Even if someone wants to play the God card... they should be allowed some type of civil union to get the same kinda medical benifits and tax status ya know?
1. Homosexuality is not natural, much like eyeglasses, polyester, and birth control.
2. Heterosexual marriages are valid becasue they produce children. Infertile couples and old people can’t legally get married because the world needs more children.
3. Obviously, gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.
4. Straight marriage will be less meaningful if Gay marriage is allowed, since Britney Spears’ 55-hour just-for-fun marriage was meaningful.
5. Heterosexual marriage has been around a long time and hasn’t changed at all; women are property, blacks can’t marry whites, and divorce is illegal.
6. Gay marriage should be decided by people, not the courts, because the majority-elected legislatures, not courts, have historically protected the rights of the minorities.
7. Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire counrty. That’s why we have only one religion in America.
You faked me out there for a minute. Wasn't gonna neg you for having a different opinion, but was thinking of something nasty to say about your intellect after reading your first point. I stand humble and corrected, fuck me but the truth according to many sure looks stupid put in context.
why do we make such a fuss over people that love each other when we cant bat an eyelid for millions dying of hunger or aids.... l wish the real issues where plastered on time magazine like the dying baby trying to fend off a flock of vultures with her last breath....that should make us think of the bigger picture...*lix*
In 50 years there'll be no rights left to be denied.
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The exuberance of youth is grand . We are all immortal when we are young . You assume a lot young fellow , you are not guaranteed another 50 days , say nothing of another 50 years .
By then the pedophiles will be demanding their rights so you can tell your kids that that is perfectly fine and no one should have their rights denied.
That must be the reason why Alexander the Great, a certified homo, conquered half the known world, and laid the foundation for your ignorant Judeo-Christian belief system that comes from the Helenic New Testament. How do you explain gay people being born to homophobic, and supposedly hetero, parents such as yourself
the nyou haven't done your research, there are differances in brain scans of homo and hetero's a homo's brain picks up on endorphines of men just like a woman's brain does
Alexander the Great was as gay as a Christmas tree... and so was Plato from whose name we get the expression "Platonic Love", referring to gay love between an older mentor and his younger disciple.
Oh, this is rich. Being gay obviously ruins homosexuals' lives, because there are so many gay suicides, right? So our plan is to, get this, BAN THEM FROM MARRYING AND EVER BEING TRULY HAPPY AGAIN AHAHAHAHA! That'll show them, amirite? A plus for your hilariously faulty logic.
Hey, I'm all for the Church saying that and refusing to marry people in their parishes, but there are certain legal benefits and rights accessible to married couples that are currently restricted to heterosexuals only.
So what you're saying is, you're for gay rights, but not gay marriage?What the fuck are we arguing about then? Call it whatever you want, marriage, domestic partnership, a lifetime of fucking each other in the ass, gays are fighting for the legal status implied by the term "marriage," not the ability to be married in a church!
The only issue here is your ignorance and bias. As recently as 60 years ago, clowns just like you were saying the exact same things about interracial marriage. Look what happened. Quit thumping the bible, stop attending those Jesus revival sessions, and get used to the changing mentality in the world. In other words, try to fucking evolve like the rest of us.
Yeah we only have a few thousand years of precedent of marriage being between only men and women. Evolution leads to extinction if you are evolving to gay couples.
Its funny you say that, because recent studies are showing an increase in gays, they think it may be natures way of population control..true story...Gays should have every right heteros have.
We also have thousands of years of 12 year old girls being married to mid age men. How old was the wife of St. Augustine again? 12 years old. Things change. Get used to it.
There is no issue of gays marrying in churches because the government can't (and doesn't) force churches to marry people. I admire your level-headedness when you debate (I've read and agree with you in a lot of them) but to think that gays don't want the rights, but only the title, is probably the most asinine thing I've heard in a long time.
My cousin is gay, he is Druidism is faith but he wants to get married to his partner due to taxes, being able to be bedside should his partner be terminally ill etc...
There is no reason for government to recognize same sex unions. The only reason government recognized hetero unions is because of continued population growth. Of course we don't want facts to come into and emotional issue though.
Wait... it's not a civil rights issue? Well what the fuck kind of issue is it then? (And honestly, I've seen things on this website, things that are perfectly legal, that are way, WAY worse than a brother and sister falling in love.)
I want to try an exercise with you. Read this, but before each bullet, say aloud "Two gay guys can't" and after each bullet say "because they both have cocks." Example: "Two gay guys can't file joint income tax returns with the IRS and state taxing authorities, because they both have cocks."
I don't like reading one letter at a time, so I'm just gonna reply to this one. 1) It's not all about profit. 100% income tax would greatly profit the state, but I think we can both agree that's not fair. This issue isn't about money, or states' rights, it's about the unalienable right of people to pursue their personal happiness. 2) About a sixth of all homosexual couples in America raise children in their household. The overall point is, give those benefits to everyone, or no one at all.
No No No. This is not a civil rights issue or there could be no restrictions on marriage at all. That means brother sister father daughter whatever would be fine as long as all were adult and consenting.
Yes, and by banning same-sex marriage, the states are infringing upon homosexuals' inherent right to pursue their own happiness, which is really the core issue here. Therefore gay rights isn't a state issue (which I intimated by saying it's not about the states' rights) but a federal one.
It's more of a jurisdiction issue. As it governs the citizens of the United States, who are free to move from state to state. This isn't about dictating zoning for a building or traffic laws.
If a person is married in a state that allows it, how do they file their federal tax returns? Does their status change if they then move to a state that doesn't recognize it?
I agree with you on the 'civil union' thing. Call it what you want. I don't think government belongs in church any more than church belongs in government.
And boy, the margins get wonky over here on the 'far right, don't they?
Frankly, and I may be going out on a limb here, any consenting (and of-age) couple should be allowed to enjoy the legal benefits of marriage. It doesn't matter if they are brothers, sisters, brother-and-sister, father-and-son, whatever. Is it weird? Yeah. Fucked up, even? Yeah! Illegal? Certainly not more so than cutting your dick off and eating your buddy's shit right out of his asshole, which is perfectly legal to do. That's getting a bit off topic, however. If you truly feel that two people should not be allowed to enjoy a legal (and secular) marriage, just because they both happen to have dicks, then I really don't think you're ever going to change your mind about it.
actually it was between one man and several women for 1,000's of years before that... so you are picking the one you like.. NOT the longest-respected one
Technically, homosexuality predates government, religion, and humanity... Shouldn't it be (for lack of a less horrible pun) 'grandfathered in', somehow?
I'm not even going to try to entertain your ignorant, bigoted mind with an explanation of how stupid that comment was, because if you were stupid enough to type that, you are too stupid to understand how wrong you are. Btw, you might wanna remove all that Queen material from your profile, I hear he was one of those gays too.
8. Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.
9. Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.
10. Children can never suceed without a male and a female role model at home. That’s why single parents are forbidden to raise children.
11. Gay marriage will change the foundation of society. Heterosexual marriage has been around for a long time, and we could never adapt to new social norms because we haven’t adapted to things like cars or longer lifespans.
12. Civil unions, providing most of the same benefits as marriage with a different name are better, because a “seperate but equal” institution is always constitutional. Seperate schools for African-Americans worked just as well as seperate marriages for gays and lesbians will.
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I am really humbled to see that the majority of the people who have responded to this post has a good grasp intellectually (not joking!). Thanks for believing America is free, maybe one day we will stand up for ourselves.
I think he's just adding multiple viewpoints together to show the right wing's full argument. In very much the same way as the Muslims believe they can have seven wives.
Paraphrased, because it doesn't translate well... "You may have seven wives as our prophet Mohamid did if you can treat them all equally. But that is impossible to do."
Most radicals only read the first sentance, the part they like and serves them best.
I say let every homo get married its not my dick or place to say ther wrong because honestly god is the last person to take advice from shits he a dead beat father who populated the world and has been mia for centurys lol
The democrat strategists have got to rein this crap in.. he is going to lose right leaning moderates because this is getting so blown out of proportion.. its a shame, so many other big problems in our country and out of all of those this stupid issue gets coverage like this.. I think it would serve him very well to distance himself from it now that he has stated his position..
It's amazing how hard people are on a president who the first day in office limited pay to senators, made gifts to them illegal, and basically came in knocking heads to badly that he hasn't been allowed to be president since by our crooked congress.
The place i worked closed, I took a CPT (college placement test) and was allowed to pick from 2,000 degrees / certs thanks to one of his programs, I qualified for extended unemployment the whole 10 months of school, Passed 7 Microsoft tests, went to work for Microsoft. Maybe it's just the rich, racist or stupid people I always see trash him, but to the average Joe this guy is the best president since FDR.
Because you don't have time to work if you are getting your MCITP Enterprise admin / MCITP Windows 7 Admin, takes for-ever to be ready for those tests, 10 months is considered a bootcamp. Plus I think 10 months over my entire life of assistance isn't too bad. I just stated how I was getting assistance but I used it to better myself and you called it "the problem"? The problem is when people don't do anything with the help....
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Even with those degrees , you'd probably still make more selling meth .
Hmmm if homosexuality isnt natural neither is hetero because a womans body tries to kill the sperm before it reaches the ovarie soooo explain that you fucking neantherthal.
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Where as a good old homo's body just shits the sperm back out . If you don't suck it out first that is . Good point sporty . Are you the captain of a debate team ?
What gets me about these jesus freak, teabaggers is their hypocrisy. In one hand they hold signs telling government to get out of their lives and in the other hand are signs stating ban gay marriage and abortion. Stupid fascist douche bags.
You do understand that if government were not in the marriage business there would be no issue. No? No of course you don't you don't think you only respew ignorant assed bullshit you heard some other fool spew.
Hey Retard, i see your special ed classes didn't pay off when it came to observation and comprehending what you see. Teabagger's are for limited government yet they are pushing to constitutionally ban gay marriage and civil unions. You don't see the hypocrisy there? I'm not talking about real Republicans, just the Teabaggers trying to take over the party. I'm not talking about Ron Paul's Tea Party, just the ass-hat, extreme "Christian" right, racist bigots that hijacked RP's movement. RP can careless who people marry. So, let me say this in words you can comprehend, marriage is nobodies business. Most people would have got that through my post but I understand you're not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Put your helmet back on before you knock yourself even more stupid.
What the fuck part of government out of Marriage makes for more government moron? Leave marriage to the Church where it belongs and it stays between one man and one woman. Who the fuck cares about the tea party?
You and your angry stupid little perspective make me want to print a copy of Canada's hate crime/speech laws and give them a big, gay, bear hug! Ohhhhhh, CANADA!!! You poor yanks and your nutty hate mongering compatriots.
Side note- so stoked for pride parade in TO next month! crazy party like it is every year. Whether gay or straight, everyone likes to get down, get fucked up, and dance the night away.
The reason why I don't support gay marriage is the same reason I don't support heterosexual marriage, as defined by the state.
Marriage is a religious construct, not a government construct. Government should just get out of the marriage game; leave marriage to churches. If the state wants to get involved in the personal arrangements of two individuals, then any two individuals, whether straight, gay, etc, should have the right to enter into a civil union.
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