well me bad - sowi - did not know that :-)

Afrikaans is more like a Dutch accent but kudos for you :-)
since 94 the "bullying" has been this way - seems like 'equal standing/status' is impossible sadly

Read the section on the pentagon attack.

Why thank you lol

Again you have no have nothing to day except I haven't read a 500 page report. Like you have. Discussion was whether 77 crashed into the pentagon. It's not disputable

That's bullshit. If you dispute what I said be specific. Flight 77 crashed into the pentagon and the. 911 commission doesn't dispute that.

all i can say is im sure glad we had bush on 9/11 and not obama

Oxymoron: Can a devout Muslim be an American patriot and loyal citizen?

1) Theologically, no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon god of Arabia, turned monothistic.

2)In a scriptural sense, no. Because his allegiance is to the five pillars of Islam and the Quran.

3)Geographically, no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca to which he turns in prayer five times a day.

4)Socially, no. Because his allegiance to Islam demands that he make no friends of Christians and Jews (Q. 5:51)

5)Politically, no. Because he must submit to the mullah, who teaches annihilation of Israel and destruction of America, the great Satan.

6)Domestically, no. Because he is instructed to marry four women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Q. 4:34).

7)Religiously, no. Because no other religion is accepted by his Allah except Islam—intolerance (Q. 2:256).

No, what are you getting at?

Nah, They they were serving under zarqawi (sp?). I'm gonna pm you so we can continue this.

You're supposed to be my friend, you turkey!! We might disagree, but, it is what it is.

I work pretty well with orders. If it was something F'ed up, I'd question it.

Stop being a girl and negging me, btw. You should relax

A lot of good a documentary will do over personal experiences... Your demands are asinine

Lol. "We all witnessed"? What a joke... It's starting to turn into the typical "I seen it on TV so it's true" argument.

"The world isn't comprised of US war vets"
And you're telling me this.... Why?

Entitlement? When have I asked or demanded anything?
Warmongering?
Can't think of anytime I've advocated for war on here.

Hard to see as it almost never happened with us. The civilians I did see dead/dying were killed by their own or outside extremists. Twix bars wouldn't last in that weather, btw.

What and where he's basing his opinions.

You should have seen what these people were given and they claims they made.

I can agree to that.. it was a total miscarriage of justice, but I am referring to the system as a whole.. their sentencing guidelines and the obscene ruled regarding statute of limitations and what is or isn't allowable.. Christ even that cunt Amanda Knox managed to get free.. thanks for sending her back Italy..

I'll trade you the bluejay for my flickers. As soon as the sun starts coming up, almost every morning for about a month now I hear this jackhammer sound on the metal plumbing vents on my roof. It is the flickers trying to attract a mate. Kinda annoying, even though I love birds.

president Eisenhower gave this farewell speech in jan 1961 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY president JFK gave this speech 4 months later in april 1961 and called it monolithic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnkdfFAqsHA
and Robert Welch makes predictions about America's future in 1958 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9wLwB31kso

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Svt5rVJ1SEI/UOapA40LETI/…
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-…
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Most dogs are for that matter.

You made the point yourself, 100 years ago...

The end of the world still isn't an excuse being from the 1st world and reasonably well educated with a practical mind, if society went tits up I can think of several designs for effective ranged kill-a-majigs without owning a gun.

How do you stop the polish Calvary in full charge? Unplug the carousel.

Sorry pole knots, I love polish jokes

Tell us another one with the Poles, Fap...

I am assuming I did, but many of the shots were at maximum zoom and the planes were buzzing by at high speed. Going back this year, will be interesting to see if I can improve on the quality. They are a bit blurry actually. I am sure the camera is much more capable of getting the shot if I can program it properly.

There are no lanes period

Fap, you think you have it bad, my ex girlfriend would wake me up atleast once a week with this song (cause I wouldnt get up when she wanted me to)
http://youtu.be/GB2yiIoEtXw

That sounds lovely actually... waking up to a blue jay... beats house sparrows

OF - i confess i may have singled out the Palestinians unfairly ?
have any other groups of people remained "refugees" for 60+ years ?

well from my point - how long have the Colombians been "refuges " for ?
i just saw a documentary about the "poor Palestinians" in Egypt
could not hold myself in check and started abit of research myself - so basically since 1948 - those whom fleed/ran away have been living off taxes of others ? which i find a horrid "role model" for the rest of the world - mainly here in South Africa where i live . the previously disadvantaged expect (demand) hand outs - title deed to their own house (free standing not apartment ) ; free schooling and higher education (known as university) plus they demand affirmative action (basically reverse apartheid ) and many other things
bottom line this all stems from the "refuge status" that is a prolonged thing - 60 odd years ?
why can they not be expected to pull finger ?

refugees all over the world are "handed out" foods , water,tents/shelters etc etc - where does all this come from ?
indirectly from each and every one of us - in taxes

bravo - it was the UK(Britain) that created/invented the state known today as Israel

OF - what took place may have been the biggest crime against humanity - i am not disputing this

Palestinians living as refugees (not working or making a living for themselves) are getting hand outs from UN ; which is part gotten from taxes we all pay

So no cancer treatments work then?..

As a proud Englishman watching this clip made my heart pound with anger. It is sickening to know that if i was there i would not have been able to say anything back because i would be arrested for racial hatred.. I honestly believe that the average man here in UK will bite back hard one day.

Gonna save the world - FUCK YEAH!

And what did she say that was so bad? She wants to get rid of crooked politicians and pay the police force more money. Sounds like a pretty good plan to me.

I'll have to look into that.
It seems our government does a lot of shady things behind the scenes.

We just believe you wanna take the piss outa us :-)

If it isn't stolen,why did we go then?..You said that's why..

I can't help but wonder why you know so much about urine.

Nothing but the finest quality

but if you get enough of them, Cat will give you a car!

And yet you can't tell me how many rigs and how much oil we "steal" or are "given" from Iraq...

I wonder if the Romans started the golden shower. Can you imagine what they would have paid the portugese for that volume of urine?

Once again,you come up short...

Dont confuse necessity with advancement. Some body got tired of boar bristles combined with the discovery of synthetics. I was I could tell you of some of the things ive seen go from concept to assembly in less then 2 years. Its a ah ha moment or a really well designed item. Look how fast America developed from 1800 to 1900. From candles to electricity, wax seals on letters to telephones. What makes this century so special? Give me one example of this leap?

Of course he's going to make millions. Members here are paying big bucks to fill up their fetus rooms.

Prove we gave them the gas..Please provide NSN #'s...The gas attacks happened in the early 80's..The sanctions happened as a result of Iraq invading Kuwait..Don't confuse yourself..

And that my friends shows you that the jet engine was indeed designed by the human race... Thanks for the help Fap :) I bid this thread adeux! *pooky vanishes from the thread never to be seen on it again*

Don't get pissy because you lack facts...

quite a few bub,quite a few...Are you denying the gas attacks now?..Especially after you said we gave him the gas?...

Not everything is a competition!!

Good thing for them I wasn't president.

It was a perfectly reasonable plan to back Sadam against Iran.

you said " How is it that the Nazis were the ones that developed...Jet engines", I just said they weren't the ones that came up with the patent...you also asked me to name some allied jets... I did. And the reason for that is most likely those german engineers who developed those plains...went to those countries.

Read most history books on the subject of aviation specifically WW2... they go into experimental aircraft for both axis and alied, you'll see that on both sides there are many experimental aircraft like the bell XP-85,Northrop XP-79(alied) and axis Messerschmitt P.1101, "do your research I'v done mine"-Fap

Very good comments. Honestly. Where is the desert with the pictures of a spider and bird etc that can only been seen clearly from the air but were drawn thousands of years ago?. ET has been here i am sure of it.

My my.is that a severe case of paranoia youhave !! Keep taking your meds youwillbe fine.

I did tell you what were the alied jets... why not go google them like you do most other thing, it's all out there. They were two different Jet engine concepts. I didn't say once that germany didn't have first operational jet engine, I just said Whittle came up with the concept 6 years before anyone else did.

Just look it up...and you were talking about alies not nazi... keep the convo in line fap

it's an actual deffinition, first actual submarine was the USS Nautilus. The german U-boats were used more on the surface than underwater. they also used diesel engines to power their batteries so they can go underwater... thus a submerable

Isn't the also mention of a UFO crash in the Black Forest? The technology was reverse engineered

Hey Fap, Frank Whittle was the first person to have the Jet engine patent in 1930 and he was from England, where as Dr. Hans von Ohain who was the designer of the first operational jet engine in 1939. So gernamy wasn't the one who came up with the concept of a jet engine.

He makes hair products now. And shavers

Most were experimental. I didn't say they all saw combat, in fact most of the jet projects got canceled or terminated.

It was charcoal and wood glue as I also just mentioned that ho229... and I know what U-boat meant, I don't consider a U-boat a submarine mainly because it was used as a boat as well (A submarine is a watercraft capable of independent operation underwater. It differs from a submersible, which has more limited underwater capability which describes a U-Boat) I was just stating that the alied forces had that technology as well and that it wasn't solely a german thing.

Sounds like senility

All easy to find and I will because it's fun. But beer and friends awate. Cheers my friend!

You are being silly. Find me one gap in the technology of the Nazis that cannot be explained. Be specific and I'll fill the gap. Meanwhile, I'm of to a friends pond to drink some beer.
Good day Sir! I said good day!

You mislead readers with these examples of Singer and Booth. There were profound advances in knowledge of Chemistry, physics and mathematics.
http://www.obkb.com/dcljr/sci20thc.htm
Lots of Germans in this list.

On top of that... There were many alied Jets that were in WW2, Gloster Meteor from Great Brittian, Ryan FR Fireball U.S to name a few

Nasa web page describes the development of the V2 rocket - without alien help.

http://history.msfc.nasa.gov/german/notes_v2.html

the stealth technology i was refering to was on the X-47B which was made out of plywood (so advanced) that fighter never saw combat either. Nazis had U-boats which are far from being a submarine, the Japs had submarines. Automatic rifels were seen in WW1 which wasn't "nazi technology" it was german, but the alied forces also had machine guns (ie M1895 Colt-Browning machine gun). With the genetics aspect, as I stated before the lack of morals and testing on captives were very high, with no boundaries one can develop allot faster than if they had restrictions.

Well of course, but Germany for decades was advancing knowledge. But it wasn't aliens feeding it to them. Again, you sully the memories of individuals who in many cases spent their whole lives attaining knowledge in one field or another. You should google search evidence of alien supplied technology and then talk to me.

radio waves were always able to go into space though, it just depends on the frequency on how far you can reach, for instance FM and AM radio (differences in distance that they can broadcast)

All of those technologies were well under development before the war; Plastics since 1903, about the same for the atom bomb, the 1920's for jet engines. Nothing the Nazis had was that far ahead of the US and England before the war, and indeed most were surpassed (not jets and rockets) in 5 short years and all of them due to the huge amount of resources and money poured into the war effort by the United States. The atomic bomb cost about 2 billion in 1945 dollars alone.

Exactly

I do sometimes wonder if you're from planet Earth Fappy.

I dunno Fap, I'm just going off what WW2 historians tell me in their books. And allot can be done when there are no moral codes that need to be fallowed too.

I had to google Skunkworks to begin with. Either way, I don't believe it. Let's give the MIT engineers and designers a little bit of credit with this stuff. lol